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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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episode number 424 for the first of

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December 2016 Richardson is here with

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you from Sydney Australia by the time

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you're listening to this a lot of you I

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might be in Queenstown New Zealand yes

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this show is coming out a bit early a

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couple of days earlier this week because

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a hotel room at the New Zealand skeptics

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conference which is being held this

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weekend in beautiful Queenstown as I

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speak to you I'm sort of half packing my

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bags half editing the show half padding

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the cats hello cats not sleeping over

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there so an early skeptic zone this week

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sort of a skeptic zone from the future

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and speaking of the future going to

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start with the top psychic predictions

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for 2016 has made in the the pages of

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the International psychics directory

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what have the best seers and mystics and

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psychics seen coming for 2016 now this

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was published all the way back in 2015

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so they couldn't possibly know what's

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coming or did they find out at the top

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of the show where we mark their homework

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we review what they said and following

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that we catch up with Michael Marshall

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who's been in Sydney after the after the

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Australian skeptics convention Melbourne

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he flew up to Sydney and we hosted him

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at a really great skeptics in the pub

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the other night he spoke to us about how

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the media can be manipulated with fake

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news what a fascinating talk that was

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and as a matter of fact folks I had the

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pleasure today to be with Marsh for a

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couple of hours with dr. Cole kirtland

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iski as they were doing lots of TV and

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radio pre records and live broadcasts

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great fun well done Marcia was a real

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pleasure to see you Michael Marshall and

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I and some other people are working on a

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few sort of semi secret projects at the

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moment but hopefully during the course

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of 2017 or shall be

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revealed anyway we've got a little

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recording of michael marshal at skeptics

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in the pub after he gave his talk just

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relaxing with a couple of drinks and

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some friends just having a bit of a

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general chat sort of like a microscopic

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think tank and following that I read a

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report from the sunday world paper in

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Ireland now this story's been brought to

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my attention by our friend Fiona O'Leary

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who is a tireless campaigner for autism

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rights and a tireless crusader against

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quackery especially when it comes to

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vaccination misinformation and this

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article is all about homeopaths oh

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they're never far from the news are they

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homeopaths after that report we have

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brouhaha from Australia science channel

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Australia science dot TV this week it's

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kelly wrong with a couple of reports

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about all sorts of things including fake

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news then to run off the show yet

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another yet another in the long-running

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series of wonderful interviews by Iran

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sir give from the QED conference oh man

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it's just chatting to Michael Marshall

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about that the other day it's such a

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great convention that one QED in

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Manchester I don't know maybe if the

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good era line ferry would visit me soon

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and apparent I digress anyway another

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interview from the microphone of her

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answer give this week this week Iran

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talks to Tom and sessle from the

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cognitive dissonance podcast and we'll

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put a link up there on the show notes

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now this is a somewhat more racier than

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the skeptic zone I have to say that

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their podcast but well you know we can't

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be all like Caesar we can't be all

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things to all men or all people and I

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know I happen to know that this podcast

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has many fans in Australia rolling off

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the skeptic zone this week Iran say give

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with grain of salt now if you're in New

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Zealand you've still just got time to

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book your ticket for the New Zealand's

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conference New Zealand skeptics

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conference and I hope to see you there

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i'll bend a spoon for you or something

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like that a link on this week's show

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notes or just google it or you'll find

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and looking forward to catching up with

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susan goreck who as an old friend of

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to have a great time we're going to have

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a great time I'll bring my microphone

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along and I'm sure to score many

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interesting interviews for you all to

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enjoy in the coming weeks but now it's

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fact now it's time for me to turn my

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keep sorting through my socks and things

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i'm going to take a premium wine card oh

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yes what else am i going to list here

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i'm going to take some copies of this

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strange skeptic magazine for our new

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zealand friends and whatever else i can

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fit into my bag but not you too not you

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too henrietta and boards sleeping over

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well I do all that I hope you enjoy the

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from the pages of the 2016 Australian

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edition of the International psychics

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directory tomorrow's news today top

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predictions for 2016 from members of the

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International psychics Association and

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this was published in late 2015 let's

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see what the the top see is mystics

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astrologers clairvoyance mediums and so

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forth had in store for us 4 2016 way

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back from 2015 global Hillary Clinton

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will be the next president of the USA

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here and say well look everybody

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mrs. Clinton would be the next president

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of the USA so we can sort of say well

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Korea would say that apart from the fact

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psychic or have insights or mystical

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powers or whatever so such a an obvious

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blundering error shouldn't be made they

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next president even even if other people

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successful Francis Bevan well we've

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assassination attempt on the Pope that

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assassination attempt on the Pope we

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family in 2016 I feel this is in the way

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someone could predict something they

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that solar flares will be in the news

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miss there Australia Australia's

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much needed overhaul and the Australian

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improvements are made to our highways

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political changes for queensland with a

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commission Chris Korea well nothing that

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crickets chirping insects well possibly

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scientists somewhere with the insect and

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animal venom but nothing particularly

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new surgery techniques Francis Bevan far

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few months to recover watch it sam well

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hand in 2016 but Australian banks will

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Elizabeth Jensen nothing like that has

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Singapore and Malaysia the increase of

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the GST will be the front and center

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economically and major efforts will be

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made to improve our unemployment numbers

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there is a positive outlook after all we

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are known as the lucky country Frances

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Bevan unless there was some secret deals

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new arrangements without international

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training partner sees a closer

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connection we are probably every year

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there are new arrangements and new deals

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and new cooperation struck between

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Australia and many of its trading

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partners no increase in the GST however

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coal prices dropping to an all-time low

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and renewable energy takes a new

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approach Chris Korea well that didn't

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happen and here we are with the vague

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weasel words I guess renewable energy

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takes a new approach it's just

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meaningless politics a light-hearted

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scandal amongst our politicians will be

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a big national joke

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budgets amer too vague what what

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light-hearted scandal was he referring

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to any details Malcolm Turnbull will be

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quite popular as prime minister but will

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not be returned to office Elizabeth

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Jensen well while Malcolm Turnbull was

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somewhat popular initially he's not so

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popular now but he was returned to

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office climate rural Queensland will get

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be rain it is in much need off Chris

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Korea I don't seem to recall hearing of

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any spectacular drought breaking rain

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although what probably did happen in the

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certain areas did get needed rain which

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happens every year regardless the Angels

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show me two volcanoes going off one is

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north of Australia in one of the

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Indonesian islands the other is east of

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australia between Australia and America

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they are also talking about erratic

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weather and climate changes all over the

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world in the next 12 months natalie

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norton Baker it turns out there was a

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volcanic eruption in September in

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Indonesia however there are about 130

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active volcanoes in indonesia as

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indonesia is on the famous Ring of Fire

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so a volcanic eruption generally

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speaking isn't much of a prediction

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because it happens every year and one in

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Indonesia isn't startling because of the

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huge number of volcanoes in indonesia

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could we give that half a hit I'm

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inclined not even to do that and the

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prediction spoke about the the area

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between Australia and the United States

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that's the Ring of Fire the Ring of Fire

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goes up New Zealand up north and swings

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across to Indonesia up through southern

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China area Japan up to Alaska and write

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down the whole western side of the

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United States and South America so any

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volcanic action in that area is not a

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prediction it is just simply expected

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and

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over the world apart from concerns about

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the various climate change issues I

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don't think there was anything compared

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particularly erratic every year there

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are major storms and hurricanes and

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tornadoes that's just what happens every

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year I see buildings collapsing as

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earthquakes hit the South China Sea

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neighboring countries including

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Australia are also affected Francis

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Bevan earthquakes in the South China Sea

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not that I have heard about again

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earthquakes happen every year and

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speaking of earthquakes a large

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earthquake effects Japan in July in the

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Tokyo area this earthquake is not as

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major as the 2011 event but there is

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some loss of human life and radiation

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from a damaged nuclear reactor there

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will only be minor earthquakes that

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cause very minimal damage in Australia

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and New Zealand Elizabeth Jensen

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Australia gets earthquakes every year

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mine earthquakes every year and new

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zealand sadly the little while ago had a

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major earthquake which caused death and

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lots of damage so absolutely incorrect

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there and Japan of course gets

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earthquakes every year and quite decent

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ones too as it did this year but the

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ones she's referring to it doesn't fit

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technology journeys to outer space will

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be very much on the public mind Frances

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Bevan well there has been some

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happenings in outer space this year

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probe was sent to Mars um but compared

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to last year or the ball or other other

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notable events I don't think 2016 has

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been a particularly big year for the

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public imagination when it comes to

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journeys to outer space entertainment

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many celebrities will be drawn to

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spirituality for their own understanding

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and others for their own egos to be

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bruceton a celebrity will appear to be

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wanting to

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help others you'd only be trying to take

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their propaganda to the world joy arena

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completely vague a completely vague and

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wishy-washy prediction their joy so out

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of the 21 odd predictions there I would

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have to rate this current crop for 2016

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is probably the worst I've come across

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in over 10 years of reviewing these

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predictions honestly there is nothing

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there that stands out as well that's an

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interesting prediction or my goodness me

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how could they have known most of these

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are completely wrong or just too vague

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to be even counted and I don't need to

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remind you that 2016 has widely been

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regarded as a pretty awful year on many

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levels I mean it had its its its good

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points too of course every year does

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every year as it's good and it's bad

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times but there well according to

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popular culture anyway 2016 was a

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stinker and glaringly absent from this

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page of predictions from these wonderful

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seers and mystics is the Donald Trump

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victory and the brexit things like the

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New Zealand earthquake from about three

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or four weeks ago the recent Japanese

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earthquake the death of Fidel Castro for

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example and so so much more David Bowie

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I need not tell you and as we have noted

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before on the skeptic zone and indeed I

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made a point of this at at tam Australia

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when we did a similar thing way back in

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2010 the success rate of Australia's top

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mystics and clairvoyance is about give

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or take five percent in other words a

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ninety-five percent wrong it's as if

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they're just making guesses we look

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forward and that magazine might be out

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now to seeing what wonders are in store

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to cosmology hosted by Fraser Cain of

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fax space journey through the cosmos at

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edited almost there now folks normally I

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like to speak to Michael Marshall when

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he's completely with it and together and

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on the ball but always along with the

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oranges he's always on the button at

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tonight he gave a wonderful talk here at

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Sydney skeptics in the pub Marsh you've

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had a it's a world wind trip to

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Australia and you're going in a few days

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yeah I am a bit in Melbourne I did a few

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things at a conference in Melbourne that

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was fun I've come here I like Sydney

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I've been sitting before I enjoy it a

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lot and I think tonight was all right

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wasn't it that was kind of like fine I'm

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getting I'm getting thumbs up on a

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microphone which is always a very useful

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thing for an audio meeting

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yes oh and I head back out on Thursday

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so it's kind of a nice little

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interjection of sunshine in the

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horrendous cold of winter that were

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experiencing the UK at the moment so I

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get to actually bugger off to the side

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of the world and actually enjoy some

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song this the winter of your discontent

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and well it's the winter of my content

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cuz I'm here in a place where I to

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actually walk it's fine it's a

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discontent of all my friends back home

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who were annoyed about the fact that I

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might have a chance he'll understand on

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a beach and put my feet in the water and

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not freeze to death tomorrow hopefully

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maybe well I guess you could say that

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2016 hasn't been bad in all respects uh

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probably less so for this hemisphere in

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my hemisphere this is certainly a this

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is certainly a year where the summit

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southern hemisphere is a couple of

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points ahead I think as the entire

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northern hemisphere is basically

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politically on fire there's nothing good

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happening up there at all that's the

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other reason I'm seeking refuge from

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whatever awful things must be happening

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back home while its political asylum it

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really is your right to it but it I'm

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hoping that you'll take pity on a pole

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itinerant skeptic and not make me go

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back to where the bad people are in

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control yeah you don't have to go back

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Marsh but no it's been a wonderful

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skeptics in the pub here folks if you

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haven't been to City skeptics in the pub

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it's the the new Occidental hotel we're

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having a really great time there are

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still people here it must be like three

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o'clock in the morning they're still be

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it's just incredible and did we enjoy

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Michael sir talk tonight yet there are

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you are sat around me right now so if

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you didn't you wouldn't say I'd be

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really rude I noticed you didn't say a

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word actually everyone say yeah yeah

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just didn't say well it's fine it's fine

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I don't need to all the video this with

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all the people sitting around the smash

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of all been on the skeptic zone at one

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stage they all have in fact Trish here

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does your ad yes the concall providing

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that spirit you are terrible but the

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body guy to you for the good thinking

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try the reason oh hi Trish hi oh yeah

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let's give me this again hang on zillow

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coffee looks like

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that's true she does that and for years

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Marsh has been promising me a new

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promotion for skeptics with a que you

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still got Colin on it you haven't had

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one since Alice joy last week I had to

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play the old one because I'm think all

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really yeah goose i thought i could have

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promoted podcast what I've I got all

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this old one metal boo the problem is

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we're really British but really British

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so talking about how good we are it's so

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hard it's really really difficult the

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hard thing is writing something

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integrate that brings Alice in and yeah

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so we'll do that sometime alice is doing

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a pH if anyone listens to shore turns

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out alice is doing a thesis for EPA we

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don't mention it often because I want to

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make a big deal of it but maybe maybe

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when that happens you know the reason

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Richard is you keep bullying me for the

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advert nothing if you go to the organ

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grinder not the monkey essentially you

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need to go to Mike Mike it's a source of

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everything that happens in terms of the

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shore I just turn up and interrupt

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people for a bit and then make stupid

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jokes and then bugger off again and Mike

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have to find wrestle that into something

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up make sense maybe if I mentioned

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doctor who it might actually get move

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somewhere that's true that's true but

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don't contact mike if I contact my kill

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ignore me because he's used to be if you

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contact law which is on its I like

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widgets on as i'm bored of Mars but I

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like which I Saunders I'll do what we

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just on as one so yes that's how you get

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that done and if you hear a new ad on

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the show in the rest of the week's you

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know that's what happened there you are

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folks who get me try and get a new ad

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the skeptics of the game if you don't

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listen to skeptics with a que why not

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it's a wonderful podcast it's one of my

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favorite skeptical podcast marsh what's

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the address ah that's a very good

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question I think it's most I'd skeptics

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WK forward slash podcasts but we're very

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findable on things so if you put the

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words that make up the title of the show

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into any kind of place where you search

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for stuff apart from in your own

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personal library if you don't already

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subscribe to us then you'll find a CS

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get it to the K anywhere where you can

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google stuff by having one of the things

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that first attracted me to your show is

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the music you remember me commenting on

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the music yeah the funny thing is

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everyone thinks like all this is the

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skeptic a theme tune I wonder where they

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got it from it's just a stock piece of

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like it's called like um mercy beat is

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the name of that track and the way thing

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is a TV show for kids in the UK called

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Peppa Pig and there's one

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all right okay well there's one episode

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of it where all the lights go out was

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all the power cut just get really hate

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to she's dancing this get to skip I'm

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sure I've seen it I've seen it cuz my

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niece's luck epic and feel coy like wow

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how did you get the theme cheat on Peppa

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Pig very much that's not how that Salman

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Khan you you you should be critical

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thinkers let's think about how this

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might happen yeah power it is evening

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step toward our in the sitting room

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dancing to my favorite song daddy pig is

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in the hallway vacuuming the carpet

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thanks again Marsh for a wonderful talk

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tonight thank you everybody for sticking

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around here and having a great time if

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you don't have the skeptics in the pub

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in your city folks it might be something

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that you can start yourselves but for

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hey Richard oh hi Trish Wow would you

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like a coffee yeah thanks what you're

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working on trying to come up with a new

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promo to play on the skeptic zone who's

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it for the good thinking society in the

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UK you know Michael Marshall Simon Singh

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Nora Thomas and background oh yeah I

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know them they've been doing some great

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work investigating veterinary homeopathy

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fit Andrey homeopathy what you sugarpill

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this freak out I know right and also

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they're looking at some of the dodgy

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medical advice given by UK chiropractors

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I'll mention all that in the promo now

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their website is good thinking society

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dot org and they've recently been

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reporting on the resurgence of faith

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healer peter Popoff you know Papa right

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ok look thanks to that it gives me

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listeners may well remember that on show

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406 of the skeptic zone on the

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thirty-first of july this year our

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special guest was Fiona O'Leary from

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Island who was and is still of course

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fighting the vax movie wherever and

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whenever she can and also miss

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information when it comes to autism and

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particularly bizarre quackery treatments

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for autism well she brought this item to

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my attention in the sunday world

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newspaper a report by Patrick O'Connell

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homeopaths cashing in on vulnerable

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parents a campaigner who exposed the

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sale of bleach as a cure for autism has

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now warned that homeopaths are milking

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thousands of euro from desperate parents

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by peddling false cures Fiona O'Leary

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who single-handedly exposed Bleacher

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preacher Patrick Merlin's Genesis to

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church for peddling a diluted bleach

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product as a cure said the law needs to

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clamp down on homeopaths making such

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promises the one group who claimed

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despite all scientific evidence to the

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contrary that toxins are responsible for

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causing autism are set to offer

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certification courses for homeopaths in

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Dublin next week the cease method which

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stands for complete elimination of

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autistic spectrum expression is the

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brainchild of Dutch homeopath tennis

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Smith's who died in 2010 Smith's claim

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that quote autism is an accumulation of

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different causes and about seventy

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percent is due to vaccines 25% to toxic

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medication and other toxic substances

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and five percent to some diseases end

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quote heartless speaking to the sunday

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world via nor O'Leary said quote parents

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of children with autism will do anything

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to help their children and heartless

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charlatans and taking advantage of that

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any homeopath claiming to be able to

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cure autism is making a false claim

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because

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autism is not a curable condition but

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these charlatans are promising a cure

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and raking in thousands on the back of

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empty promises and quote incredibly the

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group claims that quote illness

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medication and vaccination in the

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energetic field of the father and mother

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before pregnancy can be transmitted to

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the child by energetic transfer and

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quote the rise of anti-vaccination

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groups who peddle this information

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linking vaccines to various conditions

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is increasingly causing alarm among

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health care professionals around 280

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women in Ireland will be diagnosed with

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cervical cancer and some ninety will die

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from the disease in 2016 HPV is the main

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cause of this type of cancer there are

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many types of HPV most of which are

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harmless however some strains can be

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serious such as those that cause

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cervical cancer a national HPV

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vaccination program has been in place

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since 2010 and as part of this all girls

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attending first year in secondary school

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are offered the vaccine free of charge

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the Irish Cancer Society said that it

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had become quote concerned that

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misinformation about the vaccine is

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being circulated the Irish Cancer

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Society is launching an advocacy

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campaign to support politicians so that

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they can have the full facts at hand

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when targeted by anti-vaccine

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campaigners and can offer an informed

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response to any queries from

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constituents quote we cannot allow

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unsubstantiated claims to drown out the

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real facts on safety and inappropriately

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influence parents decisions to have

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their children vaccinated and quote

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committed Donald buggy of the ICS the

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society insisted that the combination of

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a HPV vaccination program along with

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cervical screening has the potential to

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quote all but eliminate cervical cancer

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and quote it noted that countries which

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started

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HPV vaccination program some time ago

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have recorded dramatic falls in HPV

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infection rates and this has led to a

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major reduction in the number of

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precancerous conditions being diagnosed

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quote the vaccine is safe and protects

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women from developing fatal cancers

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associated with HPV and quote said buggy

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and that story comes to us from the

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sunday world newspaper in ireland by

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Patrick O'Connell and with my thanks to

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our friend Fiona O'Leary who brought

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this to my attention hey svenska

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skeptical the vet vet at veteran scope

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for digging into boy talk none hang out

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of the skeptic zone with an ox 0 alpha

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alpha dog pop science quiz or skeptical

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Kevin Thomas Valley Queen per vivere

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punto from Des a fad spawning vivar

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flealick our local training a hunter

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molanda topic on warm to install talent

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it means non local training but when to

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start I'm 12 your pot on a day is new

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hello all skeptics in Sweden I'm sure

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you already know that the Swedish

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skeptics Association not only is a big

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fan of the skeptic zone but that we also

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organize lectures pop science quiz and

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skeptics in the pub all over the country

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go to WWD ofse to see what are seven

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local chapters are up to and if you live

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in a place where there is no local

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chapter why not start on yourself I'm

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and now direct from the cafe at

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Australia's science channel its brouhaha

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with Kelly Wang we can't ignore it any

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longer there's a disturbing trend in our

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news feeds fake news and the worst

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examples are you guessed it cute animal

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videos science says humans and humans

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and animals are not that polar bear it

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wasn't padding that dog it was playing

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with its prey and the poor pooch knew it

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it wasn't thinking yes this polar bear

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is my new BFF let's take a selfie it

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wasn't thinking at all it's a dog when

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cats are nuzzling up to their owners

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it's not because they're feeling

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affectionate they're marking their

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territory where scent glands you don't

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earn that cat it earns you and any

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seemingly happy-go-lucky spoilers they

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hate being tickled they don't raise

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their arms because i love the gentle tap

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of human fingertips they tryna access

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venom glands on their elbows animals are

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amazing enough in their own whole bears

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have clear fur cats can't taste sugar

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and a bottle of a slow lorises tongue is

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serrated so we can use it like a

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toothbrush if you're too busy trying to

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see what's human about an animal you'll

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we're all fans are the occasional smug

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selfie but recently people in India are

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sharing smoke selfies to show the world

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just how bad their pollution is as

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mobile phone ownership in India

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skyrockets so do the number of potential

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amateur weather reporters india's

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capital New Delhi is known as the

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world's most polluted city but it's

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gotten so bad that the evolution is

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literally blanketing the area shutting

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down parts of the city and making it

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dangerous to go outside this means nurse

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school no construction no work and no

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play not to mention a serious impact on

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people's health using social media and

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smoke selfies can grab attention from

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all over the globe without these tech

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savvy citizen reporters who knows how

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much awareness we'd have for this

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massive pollution problem dr. fiction a

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woman and her daughter both gave birth

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from the same room it's all fact in a

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Swedish woman satiereal son is living

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proof what blew us away was that this

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woman received a transplanted Wayne from

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her own mother that's mind-blowing a

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mother and child born from the same room

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it's like Beth inception let's take this

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back for a second five women have given

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Beth after receiving a uterus transplant

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and one of those women is pregnant for a

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second time transplanting a uterus is an

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incredible achievement which a lot of

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doctors believed was impossible and even

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crazy to try the Swedish doctor who

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cracked the case has now overseen a team

817
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in the US performed four surgeries in

818
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September unfortunately just one was

819
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successful which shows how difficult

820
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this is but for women who until this

821
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procedure were never going to be able to

822
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for more brouhaha and Australian science

823
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head for ww Australia science not TV it

824
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crashbug a Budweiser a skeptic wish to

825
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shock a desolate it's a skeptic we

826
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service attack elbow Python a cha'aka

827
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Hanukkah meet the skeptics on podcast

828
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834
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taught or David upon skeptical starter

835
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836
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wishbone man tova by Allen film at

837
00:40:01,559 --> 00:39:58,989
the Facebook laudanum cottage amita

838
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facebook.com / skeptic ustasha Shakti

839
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:04,119
mandalas volume into our data dharamdas

840
00:40:10,769 --> 00:40:08,650
van aken hi this is garba raas

841
00:40:12,749 --> 00:40:10,779
co-president of the Hungarian skeptics

842
00:40:14,930 --> 00:40:12,759
society and chairman of the European

843
00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:14,940
Council of skeptical organizations a

844
00:40:19,229 --> 00:40:17,380
solicitor of the skeptic zone you

845
00:40:20,910 --> 00:40:19,239
probably agree that educating others

846
00:40:23,939 --> 00:40:20,920
about to the science and critical

847
00:40:25,529 --> 00:40:23,949
thinking is an important task if you are

848
00:40:27,329 --> 00:40:25,539
eager to take part in either of these

849
00:40:31,099 --> 00:40:27,339
activities we would be happy to hear

850
00:40:36,749 --> 00:40:31,109
from you don't hesitate to contact us at

851
00:40:38,699 --> 00:40:36,759
www.adr.org info at skeptical hu we also

852
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:38,709
recommend you visiting our Facebook page

853
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skeptic wish tasha shack or simply come

854
00:41:07,460 --> 00:40:58,299
let's all take this with a grain of salt

855
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:07,470
seas around ticket okay well selling see

856
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:09,569
so I miss get from the cognitive

857
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:12,890
dissonance wha Wow welcome to the zone

858
00:41:19,219 --> 00:41:16,920
thanks for hanging okay so guys we spoke

859
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:19,229
we have a quite a lot unfortunately the

860
00:41:25,099 --> 00:41:23,130
sound quality was well dubious so which

861
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:25,109
I do it again so one of the things we

862
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:27,450
talked about is about bringing over to

863
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:28,710
Australia why why do you want to come to

864
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:32,130
Australia why I've always wanted to come

865
00:41:35,779 --> 00:41:33,599
now stirring out it's actually a hobby

866
00:41:37,969 --> 00:41:35,789
of mine is to just be randomly attacked

867
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:37,979
by her fed the animals animus its

868
00:41:41,779 --> 00:41:39,839
poisonous if you eat it I'm gonna eat

869
00:41:43,999 --> 00:41:41,789
its venomous yes they bite yes so

870
00:41:46,219 --> 00:41:44,009
poisonous we need only your animals what

871
00:41:48,140 --> 00:41:46,229
if the good is I I just want to go there

872
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:48,150
to eat all of your animals yeah like all

873
00:41:53,029 --> 00:41:49,710
those like high kangaroo taste by the

874
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:53,039
way um a bit kind of dry but yeah just

875
00:41:58,219 --> 00:41:55,710
it's very very strong flavor yeah but

876
00:41:59,660 --> 00:41:58,229
you know if we are as far as i know i

877
00:42:01,789 --> 00:41:59,670
mean you know many countries have a

878
00:42:03,380 --> 00:42:01,799
national animal yeah as far as i know it

879
00:42:06,229 --> 00:42:03,390
straight is the only one where we eat

880
00:42:09,259 --> 00:42:06,239
all right koala what do they taste like

881
00:42:10,849 --> 00:42:09,269
no that's you know my treat them really

882
00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:10,859
not allowed to eat cause yeah because

883
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:12,630
they're they're endangered maybe you

884
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:14,249
know there's different person okay so

885
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:15,839
i'm not sure whether it's endangered or

886
00:42:20,809 --> 00:42:18,930
just delicious yeah maybe do that one of

887
00:42:23,329 --> 00:42:20,819
the categories are they afraid of humans

888
00:42:24,829 --> 00:42:23,339
well they're asleep for most of the time

889
00:42:27,940 --> 00:42:24,839
that's right they like move real slow

890
00:42:31,219 --> 00:42:27,950
really slow and what they eat only

891
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:31,229
gumtree of eucalyptus leaves it's not a

892
00:42:34,729 --> 00:42:33,180
huge amount of energy which is you know

893
00:42:37,219 --> 00:42:34,739
they sleep most of the time simply to

894
00:42:40,009 --> 00:42:37,229
digest the leaves the thing is they

895
00:42:42,739 --> 00:42:40,019
don't really have predators so the very

896
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:42,749
good there is a predator I don't know no

897
00:42:47,450 --> 00:42:45,569
no nothing eats like you know you so go

898
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:47,460
crocodiles so wait a minute I want when

899
00:42:51,469 --> 00:42:49,619
we get there today I will be the apex

900
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:51,479
predator to crocodile I'm going to eat

901
00:42:54,059 --> 00:42:52,390
your whole country

902
00:42:59,039 --> 00:42:54,069
yeah unfortunately unfortunately

903
00:43:01,079 --> 00:42:59,049
defensive wound so if I know all about

904
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:01,089
defensive and finally for fun over

905
00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:03,760
spider how I got cut this in the final

906
00:43:08,250 --> 00:43:05,980
spider decides to protect itself against

907
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:08,260
here you'll come up on the losing side

908
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:11,049
mmm so being again will be the first

909
00:43:14,759 --> 00:43:13,359
time my buddy here too well everything

910
00:43:16,349 --> 00:43:14,769
down there is poisonous I am kind of

911
00:43:18,359 --> 00:43:16,359
afraid of going down there but I will

912
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:18,369
tell you this and this is genuine every

913
00:43:21,569 --> 00:43:19,690
single person I've ever met from

914
00:43:23,809 --> 00:43:21,579
Australia was the nicest person it's

915
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:23,819
like they're on a nice off with canadia

916
00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:29,170
00 apologize for ruinous for us but most

917
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:31,150
other people i'll say everyone else well

918
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,609
I'm not originally from Yeah right so

919
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:35,200
yeah that's why but no they've been on

920
00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:36,400
every day's been it's just been so nice

921
00:43:39,059 --> 00:43:37,660
room down there we've had such great

922
00:43:41,099 --> 00:43:39,069
conversations with people from down

923
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:41,109
there and they're very uh they're very

924
00:43:44,579 --> 00:43:43,450
uh very end of the skeptic scene and I

925
00:43:46,259 --> 00:43:44,589
think that that's really you know and

926
00:43:48,210 --> 00:43:46,269
some of the first fans that we ever met

927
00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:48,220
in person at tam were from Austria I'm

928
00:43:51,660 --> 00:43:50,140
Australia and they could not have been

929
00:43:53,370 --> 00:43:51,670
kinder more gracious they're just they

930
00:43:54,990 --> 00:43:53,380
were awesome people in also got the

931
00:43:57,420 --> 00:43:55,000
whole weekend and you're just they were

932
00:44:03,779 --> 00:43:57,430
great so amazed well come over teaches

933
00:44:06,329 --> 00:44:03,789
please clean up later we'll take the

934
00:44:07,799 --> 00:44:06,339
handcuffs you can pick it up but they've

935
00:44:09,089 --> 00:44:07,809
been it's been really great and one of

936
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:09,099
the things too is Tom and I've always

937
00:44:12,329 --> 00:44:10,569
always wanted to go to Australia I've

938
00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:12,339
always wanted to see Sydney we've always

939
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:14,500
wanted to see the suburbs of New Zealand

940
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:18,970
so we're do that so yeah should be fun

941
00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:21,250
her ok very good now can you tell me a

942
00:44:25,019 --> 00:44:23,470
little bit about the people I know about

943
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:25,029
your podcast but some of our listeners

944
00:44:29,069 --> 00:44:27,130
there may be one or two listeners who

945
00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:29,079
don't know about your pod custody can

946
00:44:33,870 --> 00:44:30,220
you tell us a little bit about it uh

947
00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:33,880
well our podcast is ridiculously I won't

948
00:44:36,749 --> 00:44:35,500
do what I should I read from the program

949
00:44:38,370 --> 00:44:36,759
you can read the poetry and the program

950
00:44:39,809 --> 00:44:38,380
again this is what we did last time it

951
00:44:41,309 --> 00:44:39,819
must have worked so well we should we

952
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:41,319
should repeat it nothing makes for

953
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:42,430
better radio than listening to be

954
00:44:47,849 --> 00:44:43,990
flipped through a page and try to find

955
00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:47,859
my own kid Izzy room to stay around long

956
00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:49,990
does it no sure that we were in here at

957
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:51,670
some point the days have blended to go

958
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:53,470
no they have because you haven't slept I

959
00:44:57,509 --> 00:44:55,930
know that's what I always intensely

960
00:45:00,180 --> 00:44:57,519
dehydrated no matter how much I drink I

961
00:45:01,980 --> 00:45:00,190
don't know we're trying and writing

962
00:45:03,420 --> 00:45:01,990
something with actually Walter some

963
00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:03,430
water in here water is a key ingredient

964
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,750
know

965
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:06,800
cognitive dissonance is a foul mouth

966
00:45:09,730 --> 00:45:08,510
skeptical podcast by a couple of

967
00:45:11,410 --> 00:45:09,740
goofballs who thought somebody might

968
00:45:13,660 --> 00:45:11,420
enjoy eavesdropping on their friendship

969
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:13,670
a news opinion show with obscene humor

970
00:45:17,530 --> 00:45:15,650
and very few filters you may have

971
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:17,540
already gathered that from the Guineans

972
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:18,890
unity of this event that is actually

973
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:20,330
whoever wrote that it's just just jeans

974
00:45:25,780 --> 00:45:24,440
yeah that sounds like me yeah so it's a

975
00:45:27,250 --> 00:45:25,790
but it's uh it's it's a show that

976
00:45:29,170 --> 00:45:27,260
preaches to the choir we don't teach

977
00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:29,180
anything new no we're not out of times

978
00:45:31,810 --> 00:45:30,350
we're not trying to educate the

979
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:31,820
skeptical communities yet skeptical

980
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:33,050
community is very smart and there's a

981
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:34,880
lot better podcast for that what we do

982
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:36,410
is we talk about a lot of American

983
00:45:40,359 --> 00:45:38,690
politics and a lot of a lot of stories

984
00:45:43,150 --> 00:45:40,369
that come out of America that are

985
00:45:45,340 --> 00:45:43,160
egregious towards non-believers and

986
00:45:47,980 --> 00:45:45,350
towards skeptics and we and we attack

987
00:45:49,390 --> 00:45:47,990
those things as if we're in a room full

988
00:45:51,550 --> 00:45:49,400
of people who all agree with us and

989
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:51,560
that's how we that's how we build our

990
00:45:54,970 --> 00:45:53,570
show so everybody who listens we expect

991
00:45:56,350 --> 00:45:54,980
that they're on our side and they're

992
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:56,360
going to laugh along with us when pat

993
00:46:00,220 --> 00:45:57,890
robertson says something horrible about

994
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:00,230
black people okay yeah so that's which

995
00:46:05,859 --> 00:46:03,710
is every week yeah yeah we got plenty

996
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:05,869
about okay so I know that Tommy is

997
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:08,050
particularly sensitive to two words um

998
00:46:14,050 --> 00:46:12,050
um don't you say it I have to say it I'd

999
00:46:17,050 --> 00:46:14,060
say one you say the other okay president

1000
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:17,060
Trump I'll kill the bulk of you at the

1001
00:46:25,540 --> 00:46:19,490
same time it's outrageous I will throw a

1002
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:25,550
saltwater croc in Miami I hear me hear

1003
00:46:30,849 --> 00:46:28,850
me up your comedy podcast it's true so

1004
00:46:32,590 --> 00:46:30,859
but I but I'm a little gears with the

1005
00:46:35,260 --> 00:46:32,600
Han tell jokes in a nuclear winter

1006
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:35,270
exactly awesome yeah yeah when when all

1007
00:46:38,410 --> 00:46:36,890
the power is shut off and we're eating

1008
00:46:41,050 --> 00:46:38,420
babies the show is not going to be that

1009
00:46:42,580 --> 00:46:41,060
big privacy I'm gonna have a hard time

1010
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:42,590
making it to the studio when the roads

1011
00:46:46,930 --> 00:46:44,450
are melting it's it's it's a scary

1012
00:46:49,330 --> 00:46:46,940
proposition to think that that Donald

1013
00:46:51,130 --> 00:46:49,340
Trump would win anything it's if it's

1014
00:46:52,750 --> 00:46:51,140
looking very very slim right now but

1015
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:52,760
again we still several weeks out and who

1016
00:46:56,890 --> 00:46:54,710
knows but uh but we're very we're

1017
00:46:58,599 --> 00:46:56,900
actually it would be great comedy for

1018
00:47:00,250 --> 00:46:58,609
four years but I would be embarrassed to

1019
00:47:02,620 --> 00:47:00,260
be an American for those four years yeah

1020
00:47:04,359 --> 00:47:02,630
and I would be terrified of the actual

1021
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:04,369
ramification serious absolutely i mean

1022
00:47:08,890 --> 00:47:06,890
it would be a horror show a liberal

1023
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:08,900
horse but you know I actually think it

1024
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:10,910
could could be a little bit better for

1025
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:12,530
you if you started learning Russian

1026
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:13,670
right now I know

1027
00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:16,910
I try not to learn things though that's

1028
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:18,230
like I'm gonna try not to change that

1029
00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:20,510
about myself yeah and it's a horrifying

1030
00:47:24,970 --> 00:47:22,220
proposition would you talk a lot a lot

1031
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:24,980
about politics we do you know American

1032
00:47:30,849 --> 00:47:26,690
politics are the most important ones so

1033
00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:30,859
what's because we work unfortunately you

1034
00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:32,270
know like you said it as a joke but it's

1035
00:47:36,819 --> 00:47:34,430
actually true you'd see how the entire

1036
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:36,829
world is completely obsessed with what's

1037
00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:38,510
happening in America now partially it's

1038
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:40,790
because there's ramifications to or to

1039
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:42,890
everybody you know I did America sneezes

1040
00:47:48,010 --> 00:47:45,470
everybody catches a cold oh yeah yeah

1041
00:47:50,109 --> 00:47:48,020
pressure and we will sneeze so hard if

1042
00:47:52,059 --> 00:47:50,119
Trump wins I mean will sneeze and we're

1043
00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:52,069
no harden anyone off right I'm just

1044
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:53,030
gonna be like yeah I know you're just

1045
00:47:56,980 --> 00:47:54,890
gonna have to take that actually you pay

1046
00:47:58,450 --> 00:47:56,990
me for that it'll be a good sneeze it'll

1047
00:48:02,530 --> 00:47:58,460
be a great sneeze it'll be the very

1048
00:48:05,319 --> 00:48:02,540
leave how hard he'll sneeze so not you

1049
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:05,329
guys have both have day jobs is that

1050
00:48:09,849 --> 00:48:07,369
right yeah sure yeah it was that and

1051
00:48:11,620 --> 00:48:09,859
that I think you both mentioned that

1052
00:48:13,690 --> 00:48:11,630
various times to me the show that not

1053
00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:13,700
everybody knows around you know but your

1054
00:48:18,010 --> 00:48:15,470
views and your opinions the fact that

1055
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,020
you're atheist and sure but so how does

1056
00:48:23,770 --> 00:48:20,000
that work for you in terms of you like

1057
00:48:25,569 --> 00:48:23,780
your families friends and um and you

1058
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:25,579
know compute the colleagues yeah holy

1059
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:28,160
importantly uh my my other people i work

1060
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:30,290
with know that i'm an atheist I'm the

1061
00:48:34,990 --> 00:48:32,480
only one that works with them they're

1062
00:48:36,430 --> 00:48:35,000
all religious and and they don't mind

1063
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:36,440
they don't they don't that's not

1064
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:38,410
anything that changes our relationship

1065
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:41,839
my in-laws know their religious as well

1066
00:48:45,010 --> 00:48:43,250
but they don't we don't talk about that

1067
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:45,020
that that is something that we leave off

1068
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:48,410
the table uh my friends I think pretty

1069
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:50,000
much all my friends I i don't i don't

1070
00:48:52,990 --> 00:48:51,650
really hide it from anybody but i also

1071
00:48:54,940 --> 00:48:53,000
don't talk about it it's one of those

1072
00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:54,950
things in America for real it's not

1073
00:48:58,780 --> 00:48:56,329
something that you just bring up all the

1074
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,790
time um if you're religious you do yes

1075
00:49:01,690 --> 00:49:00,079
you're like I'd like to pray before this

1076
00:49:03,099 --> 00:49:01,700
meal or whatever it is you know that you

1077
00:49:04,270 --> 00:49:03,109
always kind of try to bring it up but if

1078
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:04,280
you're an atheist most of the time you

1079
00:49:08,289 --> 00:49:06,650
never bring that up I'm it's very rare

1080
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,299
that I'll say anything about it so but

1081
00:49:12,099 --> 00:49:10,400
but the people that know though people

1082
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:12,109
that around me that are close to me know

1083
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:14,450
and they don't we don't with the two not

1084
00:49:18,270 --> 00:49:15,430
a big deal

1085
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:18,280
yeah i think what for from my side it

1086
00:49:22,650 --> 00:49:21,369
would be a problem for me at work if it

1087
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:22,660
would be a problem for me at work if

1088
00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:24,910
people the show it's really the

1089
00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:26,230
political viewpoints that I would be

1090
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,390
nervous about having upper upper

1091
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:30,480
management find out about because it's a

1092
00:49:35,309 --> 00:49:33,609
it's a very conservative company and the

1093
00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:35,319
people that run in arch truly wealthy

1094
00:49:38,670 --> 00:49:36,670
and they're trying to protect their

1095
00:49:40,740 --> 00:49:38,680
wealth and I think they want to see

1096
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:40,750
other people who have that protect my

1097
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:43,599
wealth protect my fiefdom viewpoint so

1098
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:46,329
will be problematic for me if my bosses

1099
00:49:49,799 --> 00:49:48,160
listen to the show but the fact of my

1100
00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:49,809
religiosity or lack thereof is a

1101
00:49:54,329 --> 00:49:52,390
non-issue from am just across the board

1102
00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:54,339
my family knows my friends I think

1103
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:55,300
almost all my friends are probably

1104
00:49:59,730 --> 00:49:58,210
atheist to on realm um I don't think I

1105
00:50:01,470 --> 00:49:59,740
have anything like yeah see you later

1106
00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:01,480
Sunday I'm going to charge I've never

1107
00:50:06,530 --> 00:50:03,430
heard anybody say that to me yeah so

1108
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,540
damn okay so no too bad it's not

1109
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:08,800
terrible you're in Chicago would be a

1110
00:50:12,930 --> 00:50:10,480
lot worse it could be a lot worse and I

1111
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:12,940
and I think that if you if you were to

1112
00:50:16,349 --> 00:50:14,980
like look at some of my earlier

1113
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:16,359
relationships my father's passed away

1114
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:18,910
but my dad was not happy that I was an

1115
00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:22,720
atheist um he always there was a lot of

1116
00:50:25,859 --> 00:50:24,460
guilt associated with that where he

1117
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:25,869
would try to guilt me into sort of

1118
00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:27,609
believing before he passed away he was

1119
00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:28,869
you know it was something that was very

1120
00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:31,329
great warrior Catholic he was a Lutheran

1121
00:50:35,549 --> 00:50:33,640
and so he was very because they do i

1122
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:35,559
exactly right it sounds right but but

1123
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,730
you know I think it's just one of those

1124
00:50:39,809 --> 00:50:38,319
things that he would say you know you're

1125
00:50:42,210 --> 00:50:39,819
breaking my heart I can't believe you

1126
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:42,220
and for him and his idea was that we'll

1127
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:43,599
never see each other again right he's

1128
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:45,250
gonna die he's going to go somewhere and

1129
00:50:49,650 --> 00:50:46,690
I'm not going to go to the same place as

1130
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:49,660
him and and iris pie it's not that I

1131
00:50:53,789 --> 00:50:52,210
respect that idea but I understand the

1132
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:53,799
love that comes with that you know I

1133
00:50:57,180 --> 00:50:55,750
understand it he means it with love he's

1134
00:50:59,819 --> 00:50:57,190
an easy doesn't he didn't mean it with

1135
00:51:02,309 --> 00:50:59,829
any kind of you know sort of didn't mean

1136
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:02,319
it so that he would be controlling me he

1137
00:51:05,130 --> 00:51:03,730
meant it that he really loved me and

1138
00:51:07,710 --> 00:51:05,140
wanted me to sort of be you know

1139
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:07,720
followed but i but I never I couldn't

1140
00:51:10,829 --> 00:51:08,950
live one I couldn't look him in the face

1141
00:51:12,059 --> 00:51:10,839
and say yeah again and I believe yeah no

1142
00:51:14,579 --> 00:51:12,069
problem i believe i just couldn't do it

1143
00:51:16,829 --> 00:51:14,589
and so it was a rift between us but it

1144
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,839
wasn't such a riff that it can be for

1145
00:51:20,490 --> 00:51:18,880
many other people where they get kicked

1146
00:51:22,349 --> 00:51:20,500
out of their home they never talked to

1147
00:51:23,940 --> 00:51:22,359
these their family members again this is

1148
00:51:24,580 --> 00:51:23,950
all real stuff that happens all the time

1149
00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:24,590
in America

1150
00:51:27,550 --> 00:51:25,790
constantly people get kicked out of

1151
00:51:29,470 --> 00:51:27,560
their homes they get disowned that's

1152
00:51:31,690 --> 00:51:29,480
very common so we get those emails all

1153
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:31,700
the time I think we're at an advantage

1154
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:32,720
because we're in a major metropolitan

1155
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,530
area so that gives us Edward or north to

1156
00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:38,480
be perfectly frank yeah and so that's a

1157
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:40,040
major advantage for us is that we're

1158
00:51:44,410 --> 00:51:41,810
just we're just in a different part of

1159
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:44,420
the country that is less yeah you know

1160
00:51:49,090 --> 00:51:46,250
aggressive about that sort of in general

1161
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:49,100
yeah so um but you started the podcast

1162
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:52,190
roundabout 2007 we started the podcast

1163
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:54,530
we started our first podcast in 2007 it

1164
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:55,610
was called everyone's a critic it's

1165
00:51:58,900 --> 00:51:57,530
terrible and then we recorded it for

1166
00:52:01,450 --> 00:51:58,910
several years it was a movie room

1167
00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:01,460
podcast that had this sort of atheists

1168
00:52:04,690 --> 00:52:03,470
skeptical news portion that was sort of

1169
00:52:06,490 --> 00:52:04,700
tacked into it it didn't really make a

1170
00:52:08,110 --> 00:52:06,500
lot of sense but we loved we loved it we

1171
00:52:09,220 --> 00:52:08,120
love to do it and then one day we

1172
00:52:10,780 --> 00:52:09,230
started talking we said you know we

1173
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:10,790
should switch knees up and just do two

1174
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:13,130
podcasts and I convinced Tom who is very

1175
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:15,650
busy at the time with a young child and

1176
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:17,210
all family and you know you just do it

1177
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:18,470
like I was like we should really do to

1178
00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:20,090
podcasts and he said yeah let's try it

1179
00:52:24,010 --> 00:52:22,460
and so we tried it for six months the

1180
00:52:25,540 --> 00:52:24,020
movie room podcast stalled out because

1181
00:52:27,070 --> 00:52:25,550
nobody was listening to it and everybody

1182
00:52:29,590 --> 00:52:27,080
loved cognitive dissonance they loved

1183
00:52:31,210 --> 00:52:29,600
this new atheist news podcast that was

1184
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:31,220
that was sort of part of everyone's a

1185
00:52:34,510 --> 00:52:32,450
critic for a very long time but she's

1186
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:34,520
nobody knew how to find it and when and

1187
00:52:40,810 --> 00:52:37,040
that started in 2011 so we split them up

1188
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:40,820
in 2011 and in 2011 in April that's when

1189
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:42,110
the show took off and we've been doing

1190
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:43,970
it for five years and it's been great

1191
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:46,730
it's been even as a hobby goes yeah is

1192
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:48,530
the best hobby i could imagine having

1193
00:52:53,350 --> 00:52:50,690
its but it's a ridiculous amount of fun

1194
00:52:55,420 --> 00:52:53,360
yes a bit especially for You Tom because

1195
00:52:57,790 --> 00:52:55,430
you spend so much time working on the

1196
00:52:59,650 --> 00:52:57,800
podcast so much work I spend upwards of

1197
00:53:02,170 --> 00:52:59,660
how long do we write hold you so Mike

1198
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:02,180
don't know any I don't know ya know Tom

1199
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:03,770
spends literally no time doing anything

1200
00:53:07,150 --> 00:53:05,570
and then I do all the work and then Tom

1201
00:53:09,340 --> 00:53:07,160
takes all the credit and have money and

1202
00:53:11,830 --> 00:53:09,350
Tom's tom is always the funny and smart

1203
00:53:13,660 --> 00:53:11,840
one and I'm the guy who's the who's the

1204
00:53:16,210 --> 00:53:13,670
whiny one so that's that's how

1205
00:53:19,330 --> 00:53:16,220
that's how the division is it he says it

1206
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:19,340
way because it's true yeah and there's

1207
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:22,400
no be actually there's no be no beep all

1208
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:24,410
right it's like you know all I want is

1209
00:53:29,020 --> 00:53:26,810
the the money and the credit of fame

1210
00:53:30,190 --> 00:53:29,030
yeah and then I didn't and then I don't

1211
00:53:32,170 --> 00:53:30,200
want you to have tell me when we get the

1212
00:53:35,140 --> 00:53:32,180
fame Ron right I'm waiting

1213
00:53:37,059 --> 00:53:35,150
one what I want now what I get or have

1214
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:37,069
these are very distinct items sounds

1215
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:39,770
great yeah number 2 2011 and we've been

1216
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:41,089
doing ever since we haven't missed a

1217
00:53:45,819 --> 00:53:44,000
week since august of 2011 so yeah

1218
00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:45,829
something i have to confess to you is

1219
00:53:50,109 --> 00:53:47,390
that I'm used to listening to you at one

1220
00:53:51,819 --> 00:53:50,119
point five speed we heard a lot this

1221
00:53:54,130 --> 00:53:51,829
weekend I just want to get a rise

1222
00:53:56,740 --> 00:53:54,140
there's such a wealth of good material

1223
00:53:58,780 --> 00:53:56,750
like yeah but restitution so in this

1224
00:54:00,490 --> 00:53:58,790
this podcast that I simply I just

1225
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:00,500
occasionally removed or customer my

1226
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:02,240
stream just say just not enough time the

1227
00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:03,680
certain podcast that I don't miss yours

1228
00:54:06,819 --> 00:54:05,750
is one of them but in order to listen to

1229
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,829
all the podcasts that I want to listen

1230
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:08,480
to you right I listen to them at one

1231
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:10,609
point five speed and then I listen to

1232
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:15,530
two skeptics Creed at a regular speed

1233
00:54:25,059 --> 00:54:23,599
occasionally and it sounds very and I

1234
00:54:29,290 --> 00:54:25,069
could actually speaking to you like this

1235
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:29,300
just no noble discussion and using some

1236
00:54:33,370 --> 00:54:31,730
people do we sounds awesome I've been

1237
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:33,380
told I would slow my whole line mate oh

1238
00:54:39,099 --> 00:54:36,410
yeah I love it I love it I'm smarter in

1239
00:54:40,539 --> 00:54:39,109
your head that I have you know these

1240
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:40,549
guys are so quick witted when I fast

1241
00:54:46,299 --> 00:54:43,130
forward now right yeah amazing so

1242
00:54:49,059 --> 00:54:46,309
ridiculous yeah I love it yeah okay is

1243
00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:49,069
that so we'll we'll try to get you to

1244
00:54:54,370 --> 00:54:52,190
Australia sometime in 2017 you already

1245
00:54:56,170 --> 00:54:54,380
have several listeners we've figured it

1246
00:54:57,819 --> 00:54:56,180
out that we have at least like seven or

1247
00:54:58,900 --> 00:54:57,829
eight yeah boy yeah as long as those

1248
00:55:02,140 --> 00:54:58,910
people have friends that we mentioned

1249
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:02,150
yeah okay you're good yeah I'm so yeah

1250
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:04,490
we'll try to get those say people yeah

1251
00:55:08,109 --> 00:55:06,770
sure yeah well that'll be in Delhi tough

1252
00:55:10,750 --> 00:55:08,119
cuz they have to get in there mad max

1253
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,760
cars and drive all the way across no

1254
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,559
they can also write approaches of milk a

1255
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:14,720
wasteland that yeah that's actually

1256
00:55:21,490 --> 00:55:16,910
Tommy's Ronnie we actually go by

1257
00:55:24,010 --> 00:55:21,500
kangaroo hahaha I'm is right okay Kendra

1258
00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:24,020
many ways just to memorialize that by

1259
00:55:29,140 --> 00:55:26,750
the way it will not happen again and I'm

1260
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:29,150
sorry good okay guys thank you very much

1261
00:55:32,510 --> 00:55:30,650
for being thanks writing so thank you so

1262
00:55:44,660 --> 00:55:32,520
much this a lot of fun

1263
00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:44,670
so today this is dr. Carl Carl Chris

1264
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:46,200
must be proud to be skeptic and you can

1265
00:56:08,660 --> 00:55:48,330
find out more about me at dr. Carl calm

1266
00:56:12,660 --> 00:56:10,950
thank you for listening to the skeptic

1267
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:12,670
zone coming up in the next few weeks

1268
00:56:17,310 --> 00:56:15,280
bound to have some our interviews from

1269
00:56:19,650 --> 00:56:17,320
the New Zealand skeptics conference

1270
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:19,660
looking forward to that I almost

1271
00:56:24,090 --> 00:56:22,570
finished packing during that episode now

1272
00:56:26,190 --> 00:56:24,100
wonder where those divining rods have

1273
00:56:28,050 --> 00:56:26,200
got to also some more interviews from

1274
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:28,060
QED of course with Iran's they give

1275
00:56:32,430 --> 00:56:29,770
talking to some more interesting people

1276
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:32,440
and I think next week we have some more

1277
00:56:37,050 --> 00:56:34,480
news about homeopathy there's been lots

1278
00:56:38,730 --> 00:56:37,060
of movement lately in regards to

1279
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:38,740
regulation in the United States about

1280
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:40,330
homeopathy we should try to bring you

1281
00:56:44,850 --> 00:56:43,390
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1282
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:44,860
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1285
00:56:53,940 --> 00:56:52,030
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1286
00:56:55,830 --> 00:56:53,950
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1287
00:56:57,540 --> 00:56:55,840
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1288
00:56:59,730 --> 00:56:57,550
using at the moment giving it a try out

1289
00:57:01,620 --> 00:56:59,740
it's a tiny little sort of a zoom

1290
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:01,630
microphone which you put into an iDevice

1291
00:57:06,330 --> 00:57:04,000
that means that when i'm on the road

1292
00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:06,340
very shortly on in the air flying to New

1293
00:57:10,830 --> 00:57:08,440
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1294
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:10,840
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1295
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:13,030
microphone I can carry around this

1296
00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:14,710
little little thing that slips into my

1297
00:57:22,530 --> 00:57:19,840
pocket what is it it's a I q5 and in my

1298
00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:22,540
field tests so far it's performed pretty

1299
00:57:28,170 --> 00:57:25,990
well but I can't obviously I can't get

1300
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:28,180
things like this unless I get the

1301
00:57:32,190 --> 00:57:29,710
support of skeptic zone listener sir

1302
00:57:35,790 --> 00:57:32,200
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1303
00:57:40,620 --> 00:57:35,800
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1304
00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:40,630
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1305
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:42,190
a lot of the editing for the skeptic

1306
00:57:46,590 --> 00:57:44,530
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00:57:49,290 --> 00:57:46,600
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1308
00:57:50,730 --> 00:57:49,300
plug to the apple or even to the zoom

1309
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:50,740
company but they're the products I

1310
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:52,900
happen to you but that's enough for me

1311
00:57:56,940 --> 00:57:54,640
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1312
00:58:02,960 --> 00:57:56,950
Saunders signing off from Sydney

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00:58:09,150 --> 00:58:05,400
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